History Is A Great Teacher

Wow, I read the below comment from a man today on a men's forum at a time when the American Empire is in the state of collapse. What is so striking is that men of high standing in Rome pleaded with men to do the same when the Roman Republic was head long toward collapse...AMAZING SIMULARITIES IN THE MESSAGE! Anyway....just found it fascinating.

"The death of marriage is a symptom – not the cause. Delighting that it frees you from the traditional burdens of manhood is delight in the death of our civilization. Biological stagnation is death, and if we don’t participate in the propagation of our forms our forms will disappear. What joy is there in total freedom from women and children when you know that your own inevitable death is nothing but another nail in our peoples’ coffin?"

"No sane man can deny the evil of the Pink Horde, but their destruction is not the answer. Only they have the power to create new people on the scale needed to perpetuate the Western tradition."

"Feminism is an attack on Western civilization – designed, unleashed, and funded by the real enemy. MGTOW is collaboration. It is defection from our male responsibility. It is our natural responsibility to be the Great Oak in the storm – to teach these women true repentance – to change their hearts – to show them their need – so that the West may be replenished. Their delusions have their prices – which reality will extract. But we Men have our own debts to pay."

I pulled the above from a men's forum today.

------ Then what is remarkable is the similarities to the below quote of a Roman Statesman and General addressing the nations men:

Upon the dissolution of the Roman family, falling birth rates, female sexuality moving from private and monogamous to public and promiscuous the Roman general, statesman, and censor Quintus Caecilius Metellus Macedonicus states in 131 B.C....

"If we could survive without a wife, citizens of Rome, all of us would do without that nuisance.” So proclaimed the Roman general, statesman, and censor.

Still, he went on to plead, falling birthrates required that Roman men fulfill their duty to reproduce, no matter how irritating Roman women might have become.

"Since nature has so decreed that we cannot manage comfortably with them, nor live in any way without them, we must plan for our lasting preservation rather than for our temporary pleasure."

Men rejected the message. What we are witnessing is just a part of the death cycle of civilization. What is happening with women is how women behave at the precipice of decline. By historical accounts their women became just as intolerable, demanding and entitled as ours have during the height of the empire. The death of the west has already happened, it is simply that they have not pulled the Stimulus plug out yet. We are being held afloat by the debasement of our currency and mounting debt.

Living in a time and place of a dying empire yields so many of the same experiences. I identify with the men of Rome. I find the whole thing fascinating.


Hmm...it is interesting when you add up the census report I've linked below for the 25-29 age group and combine it with the information in the census graph for up to age 34 demographic. Less than half are married or have divorced by age 34. I doubt there is an age above 34 where the majority of people are married or have a family within the marriage of two biological parents. It would be interesting to find out but I doubt this is the case. Marriage and married families with both biological parents present are actually the minority. Crazy huh.

The above graph is a little dated the single mother birth rate is now 42%

WOW, "Nearly half of all women between the ages of 25 and 29 have never been married" The numbers are climbing with great momentum.

Here is the census report:http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/p70-125.pdf

Our birth rate is already below replacement levels. I expect it to drop lower. The infrastructure of our social systems are not maintainable not only from government debt alone but simple birth demographics. I wonder how all this will play out. One thing is for sure. All this will continue to be blamed upon men. I see the government becoming ever more totalitarian.

The tatters of the American family will be kept on life support by ever more draconian laws against men to provide to women's families. I see a continued increase in what can be described as government husbandry in order to hold things together. However, the system can simply not support it. I believe with the death of the family the death of the civilization the common felicity of the family held together must not be to far behind.As societal structure moves toward matriarchy fatherlessness becomes more common. Women typically have children from multiple fathers. The goal of "women's liberation" is "empowerment" in this respect. The goal of "women's liberation" is "independence" to act out their base animal instincts.

Civilization, morality and justice are formed from higher objective reasoning and only come about when our animal instincts are regulated and put in check. Unlike polyandrous matriarchy, western patriarchal societies made polygamy illegal for men.

The United States of course is becoming matriarchal:

With this comes the destruction of the family, the marginalization of men from the family and fatherless children. This is the future women seek. "Independence" for women means freedom from the very constraints that hold civilization together.

It is my contention that with the reform women made to marriage law that men should not reproduce if they can help it. Men should not commit to the matriarchal marriage. After women's liberation during the final days of the Roman Republic men were so disenfranchised from becoming the sperm donors women made them to be that they refused to marry women and would rather simply have sex with them.

Abortion and the widespread use of birth control became normalized. Philosophers of the time legitimized it. Except women would simply leave their newborns on the steppes outside the city to die of exposure. The family was destroyed. When female nature was unleashed the Republic was destroyed as well.

“We Romans, who rule the world, are ruled by our women.” -Cicero (History and death of the Roman Republic)

Women's liberation laws became up for debate in the senate. Upon the deliberation upon one of them it was recorded:

"Suffer them once to arrive at an equality with you, and they will from that moment become your superiors."
-Cato the Censor (234–149 B.C.) Rome (215 B.C.)

Never the less the State suitor deferred to the nations women.

Statesmen, government and generals of the time pleaded to men that they must "man up" to responsibility and marry women, to be disposable fathers to the matriarchal family, men rejected the message.

The marriage law promoted by Octavia, Augustus Caesar, was a belated attempt to reverse this process which was already well advanced in the first century A.D.

Heavy "bachelor taxes" were enacted upon men in attempt to force them to marry. The blame then was the same as it is now...upon men. Men, as we know now as well, were not the source of the nations woes.

Women's liberation occurred in Sparta as well. When women gain political agency the state becomes the male suitor. She enacts her nature through the State and from the State upon the nations men. She will not stop this....it is her nature. It is happening now in the United States. I fear there may be little we can do to stop what women are doing.

"Again, the license of the Lacedaemonian women defeats the intention of the Spartan constitution, and is adverse to the happiness of the state. For, a husband and wife being each a part of every family, the state may be considered as about equally divided into men and women; and, therefore, in those states in which the condition of the women is bad, half the city may be regarded as having no laws."

And this is what has actually happened at Sparta; the legislator wanted to make the whole state hardy and temperate, and he has carried out his intention in the case of the men, but he has neglected the women, who live in every sort of intemperance and luxury.

"The evil practices of the last (stage) and worst form of democracy are all found in tyrannies. Such are the power given to women in their families in the hope that they will inform against their husbands"

-Aristotle

‎"women do not conspire against tyrants; and they are of course friendly to tyrannies since under them they have a good time."

-Aristotle

"This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector." (most especially of women)
-Plato