ABOVE is a picture from Time Magazine (Issue Nov 22 2010 pg.61) showing that women out earn men in 47 of 50 major metropolitan cities.
Time Magazine also says women control 51.3% of the nations wealth. This is only a partial truth. Women control 60% of the nations wealth.
After men die the fruits of our labor go to any "independent" woman we were married to.
If our wife is dead it goes to our ex wife of 30 or more years ago like my step-fathers social security money did.
The law states implicitly that women are invalids who are incapable of taking care of themselves, grown up children. This is why men have no rights to our bodies and the fruits of it's labor. This is why men have no right to be a Father to our children after divorce and are forced to support a woman and "HER" children.
Marriage is a commitment from a man to a woman. Women do not even bear a man children. We have no right to children both pre and post conception.
I'm glad marriage rates have declined to record lows since women changed marriage and family law among many other laws they've created for themselves:
I'm glad single mother births are at record highs:
I want nothing to do with the feminist matriarchal family. Women should support their own family. You all deserve to wallow in your gluttony and the matriarchal government husband State until you consume yourselves of your own means of production and the Republic is destroyed.
I'm glad the Stimulus Package was devoted to women.
I'm glad they have Affirmative Action "women first" laws in college admissions and job hirings.
I'm glad men have no property rights to our bodies and the fruits of its labor.
I'm glad we have no rights to fatherhood or rights within the marriage contract and thus no rights in divorce.
I'm glad the generation of fatherless boys are being turned out into our society.
I'm glad men are a minority in colleges and the ranks of male acquisition of college degrees is on a precipitous decline.
I'm glad male participation in the labor force is on a continual decline and our prisons are overflowing with the results of errant masculinity.
Our young men are turned out into a society where masculine culture has been destroyed. A society where males are raised with sole female authority at home and at school.
I'm glad male suicide has tripped since 1970.
I'm glad marriage is on a precipitous decline.
I'm glad the single mother birth rate is at an all time high of 42% of all births and growing.
It will all speed up the demise of my country toward a new beginning. It will be men who will rebuild from the rubble. But it will be men who suffer, die and shed blood to do so.
It makes me wonder how that Wage Gap is working out for women...quite well it seems..
Want to know the truth about the wage gap? POP QUIZ ladies, do you know how The number for the Raw Wage Gap is generated? Enlighten yourselves.
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Spin city again I see. Your chart is comparing SINGLE CHILDLESS WOMEN. Most women are MOTHERS. You compare earnings of ALL WOMEN (who are mostly mothers, and your going to find the wage gap you claim doesn't exist. It's a well known fact that women who have children have far lower earnings due to our hostile work environment that makes it almost impossible for WOMEN WITH CHILDREN TO COMBINE WORK AND FAMILY RESPONSIBILITIES WITHOUT HURTING THEIR EARNING POTENTIAL. Most men with children don't have this problem because they DON'T HAVE PRIMARY CAREGIVING RESPONSIBLITY FOR CHILDREN. They dump all that on their wives. You were whining about low birth rates. Well, here's a good reason why a lot of women aren't having children. They don't want to end up without enough money for retirement. That said, women with children give up a lot more than men will ever realize in order to have and care for those children. Mothers deserve a heck of a lot more than poverty in old age to show for it. Our stupid patriarchal society (mostly men) need to realize this instead of trying to put roadblocks up in front of women instead of spouting the nonsense you are. That said, this chart is comparing women in their 20s. Let's wait a few years when those women are older and have childrn. That wage gap is going to be there.
"Your chart is comparing SINGLE CHILDLESS WOMEN. Most women are MOTHERS. You compare earnings of ALL WOMEN (who are mostly mothers, and your going to find the wage gap you claim doesn't exist. It's a well known fact that women who have children have far lower earnings due to our hostile work environment that makes it almost impossible for WOMEN WITH CHILDREN TO COMBINE WORK AND FAMILY RESPONSIBILITIES WITHOUT HURTING THEIR EARNING POTENTIAL."
I know this already. So what do you suppose the solution is? Government or Corporate child care facilities? What do you want??? What is it that you suppose we do with the child problem?
Men can barely support women as it is. You now HAVE TO WORK, both of us do. We must in order to meet the same standard of living you could support 50 years ago on a single earner.
It is not women's fault. I think we were tricked. There has been downward pressure on wages for the last 40 years. The distribution of wealth in the country is unprecedented. Such disparity has not occurred since just before The Great Depression hit.
See my other blog:
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Specifically This Picture:
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This One:
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I like your comments Anonymous. I'd like it if you would stick around awhile.
Anonymous
You leave out the fact that these mothers tend to earn off the family wage. So whatever their husband makes, they are taxed as a unit and his wage becomes a combined wage. So the wage gap in favour of women is actually a lot higher than the figures suggest.
"You leave out the fact that these mothers tend to earn off the family wage. So whatever their husband makes, they are taxed as a unit and his wage becomes a combined wage. So the wage gap in favour of women is actually a lot higher than the figures suggest."
In other words, mothers pay the higher tax based on their husband's higher earnings (in most cases). This leads to a decrease in their OWN income, social security benefits, and less money available to put into their own pension plans and retirement accounts. When retirement comes, they are forced to rely on social security benefits based on their husband's income (at only 50%) rather than their own in order to survive, and they don't get any benefit for THE SOCIAL SECURITY THEY DID PAY INTO THE SYSTEM. Yeah, that wage gap is really favoring women when you guys gripe that we have to rely on our husband's social security benefits because you set up a tax system that is designed for the male breadwinner family when most husbands have to rely on their wife's second income in order to pay the bills.
Anonymous
No, in other words the wage gap that is only generated by ignoring the fact that the family wage is a combined wage is an illusion.
Whats more, single women are paid more than single men, so why not go after single women for that 20%?
Women as a group have more money than men as a group, women as a group wear better clothes and shoes than men as a group! Stop hounding us for more money and get by on what you have, you are the most affluent consumer group in society.
"because you set up a tax system"
I didn't set up any tax system
"husbands have to rely on their wife's second income in order to pay the bills".
You seem to be reinforcing the gender role of male main bill payer and view women as victimized by having to contribute.
If women has less money than men, I would take you seriously, but thats not the case.
"No, in other words the wage gap that is only generated by ignoring the fact that the family wage is a combined wage is an illusion."
Firt you defined the combined wage as HIS WAGES now it's the FAMILY WAGE. Sorry, you can't have it both ways.
"I didn't set up any tax system"
I said "you guys", i.e., the patriarchal system that YOU MEN BENEFIT FROM.
"You seem to be reinforcing the gender role of male main bill payer and view women as victimized by having to contribute."
Women are victimized when they have to pay the higher tax rate based on the husband's higher salary. Yet, they most likely never get any of the social security benefits they pay into the system leaving them dependant on their husbands social security at retirement. At the same time, they contribute by paying the bills, DOING THE PRIMARY CAREGIVING OF THE CHILDREN, and any childcare expenses are usually paid for the working wife. In order to HAVE THAT SECOND INCOME AND BALANCE THE PRIMARY CHILDCARE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT DON'T USUALLY FALL ON THE HUSBAND, a lot of women have to stick to flexible, lower paying work with little or no benefits. All this benefits THE HUSBAND'S PAYCHECK. Free of most childcare duties, he can work more hours at a higher paying job. He'll get a better salary, and more social security benefits. He doesn't have to worry about taking off of work for a sick kid because HIS WIFE with the flexible hours and lower paying job will more likely be able to do that. In addition to all of this, HE GETS THE BENEFIT OF A SECOND INCOME TO PAY THE BILLS. Plus, he GETS TO KEEP MORE OF HIS INCOME BECAUSE HE ISN'T PAYING MOST OF HIS INCOME TO TAXES. In other words, THE WIFE IS SUPPLEMENTING HER HUSBAND'S INCOME AND RETIREMENT BY HER JOB AND THE WORK SHE DOES AT HOME SO HE CAN RECEIVE THE HIGHER WAGE. Yet, that so-called COMINED WAGE is in HIS NAME AT RETIREMENT LEAVING THE WIFE WITH LITTLE OR NO RETIREMENT HERSELF. And you have the nerve to say women have more money? You have absolutely no idea what your talking about. This isn't a FAMILY WAGE idiot. This is a COMBINED WAGE that based on the work of BOTH THE HUSBAND AND WIFE, yet ONLY THE HUSBAND BENEFITS WITH FULL RETIREMENT. The wife gets a pathetic 50%, and SHE ISN'T EVEN ALLOWED TO BENEFIT FROM THE SOCIAL SECURITY SHE DID PAY INTO THE SYSTEM.
"If women has less money than men, I would take you seriously, but thats not the case"
And if this were really true instead of the product of your fantasies (and most MRA FANTASY), I would take you seriously, but that's not the case.
Actually anon, Time Magazine says women control 51.3% of the nations wealth. This is only a partial truth. Women control 60% of the nations wealth.
After men die the fruits of our labor go to any "independent" woman we were married to.
Would women like to settle this on the battle field? I know the gender war is underway but we should take it all the way. Women are obviously a separate socio-political and socio-economic class that is in competition with men for territory and resources.
Obviously women are our competition and our adversaries socially, politically and economically.
There is no way I would support a woman and her child anyway. Men have no rights in the family anyway. I want nothing to do with the matriarchal family. There is no way I will EVER place myself in a position where a woman has ownership of my body and thus the fruits of it's labor.
Men are not members of women's families. Again, as a now separate class, your gender is in fact our competition and adversaries, in the workplace, in politics and in economics.
There's too much shouting in the comments here. There's good content, but the yelling obscures it.
Annon
Im sorry I'm not going to be responding to that.
I view you position as that of extreme entitlement, women have more money, more resources, more health funding, more education funding than men, yet you feel that women are victimised and need even more money, presumably at the expense of men through coercive legislation.
Anon, it is important that women as a class compete against men and become honorable adversaries.
The way women have been doing it is unfair and exploitative. I understand that you want to be independent and liberated but you must not seek any support from men. You must become independent from your dependency. We must reach a state of mutual dis-need between the genders in order for the feminist social construct of society to be complete.
We owe you and your children nothing. Men owe nothing to the independent and liberated feminist matriarchal family.
Only women could have ever gotten away with such things thus far. Again men are not a part of the family of women nor are legally part of the lives of our children. Women need to have the courage to follow through on their word and become equals to men, to become truly independent and liberated. Female choices can not be financed by male liabilities. Sink or swim, women are on their own...
I am afraid there is no turning back. You are now a separate socio-political and socio-economic class. Any social or family issues should be discussed between women and their government husband. Men want no part of your relationship with him nor do we want to be subjects of his heavy hand in our relationship with you. Remember as women said, "the personal is political"
Anon said...."blah,blah,blah,blah WOMEN ARE OPPRESSED BECAUSE YOU WON'T PAY US TO STAY HOME AND LOOK AFTER OUR CHILDREN,WaaaaAAAAAAAH,WAAAAAAAHHHHaaaaAAAAA!*sniffle*
Guess what,bitch? You birth the children, you have titties to feed the children. What do you think those are for? Just to hang there and look nice? I don't GIVE a fuck what you want to do with your life, and Mother Nature doesn't either. You give birth. NOw quit fucking WHINING about it and set yourself apart as a GOOD MOTHER AND WOMAN rather than trying to be a MAN,you fucking IDIOT.
It's not my fault you hate your own sex. If you hate being a fucking woman so much just fucking kill yourself. You're less than worthless to society,because not only will you not compete with men on the same terms we compete with each other, you sit here RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT demanding additional free handouts as a payment for playing the game which NOONE INVITED YOU TO PLAY IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE.
You refuse to accept the fact that your pregnancies are NOT MY FUCKING PROBLEM.
Let me state that again: YOUR INABILITY TO WORK DUE TO BEING PREGNANT OR HAVING KIDS IS NOT.MY.FUCKING.PROBLEM.
I didn't ask you to try to be a man,that was YOUR idea, I don't have to fucking PAY YOU to be an inferior man.
You should be happy being a first-rate woman, but because you're a woman, you refuse to be satisfied with the FREE SHIT that people just hand you because you're a woman. You don't want the golden eggs, you want to cut open the goose that lays them. You're fucking retarded, that's YOUR cross to bear. Not mine.
"It's a well known fact that women who have children have far lower earnings due to our hostile work environment that makes it almost impossible for WOMEN WITH CHILDREN TO COMBINE WORK AND FAMILY RESPONSIBILITIES WITHOUT HURTING THEIR EARNING POTENTIAL. Most men with children don't have this problem because they DON'T HAVE PRIMARY CAREGIVING RESPONSIBLITY FOR CHILDREN. They dump all that on their wives."
Women want it both ways. They WANT to be the primary child care givers. Women don't want to marry would be "Mr. Moms" and women actively "block" fathers who try to "usurp" their position as the primary child rearer. At the same time, women, like this one here, complain that "working mothers" don't do as well as fathers in the work place. Well, duh. The parent who takes "leave," who needs "flex" time, who wants to "work from home," who stays home when the kids are sick, who takes time to take the children to the doctors, who "has" to leave work everyday at the same time (no matter how much work has built up) "to pick up the kids," etc., etc., simply isn't as valuable to the employer as the parent (or non parent) who doesn't do all those thing.
Women want to go to work less and yet be paid the same amount. They want to have gaps in their careers yet be promoted at the same annual rate. And so on.
Or, some of them, want the government to simply pay someone else (usually another woman) to raise their children for them.
Basically, women like this one here, want the decision to have children to have no opportunity costs to anyone. They, in the famous phrase, "want it all."
Real life doesn't work that way. If a woman doesn't want a man who will "dump" the role of primary child carer on her, she shouldn't marry such a man. Marry a Mr. Mom, or parnter up with another woman. That way, you will be "free" to work full time all the time, and then you will be able to compete with traditional fathers and childless men and women in the workplace. Or, don't have children at all.
Women have far more choices than men do. Women CAN be SAHMs. Very few men have the option of being SAHFs. Women can have children without marrying a man. That is very, very difficult for a man. Basically, a man, whether married or not or childfree or not, has only one "option." Namely, to work for a living from when he becomes an adult until he dies or retires. Women have that option, plus the option of being a SAHM. Women are also in charge of child breeding.
And yet, like this women here, they are never satisfied. They want it all and they want the best of everything. They want to be the primary child care giver, and yet they want that decision to have NO IMPACT on how they are paid or promoted at work. Even though, obviously, it effects their performance at work. Even though, it means they are not actually AT WORK as much as their colleagues are.
That's you "wage gap." Married mothers staying at home and complaining that they didn't get the big promotion at work.
"Female choices can not be financed by male liabilities. Sink or swim, women are on their own..."
BINGO!
Um just a suggestion. Since women now earn more than men before children are born how about men and women switch roles?
I mean, after breast feeding men can just stay home until the child reaches school age. Or some women fore go breast feeding altogether despite the benefits to the child anyway so you can just feed the little burden formula. This way women can find the true fulfillment they say is in their "careers".
I say men should stay home. That way we can benefit by the laws women passed. We can leave her in no-fault, take her children with us and force her to support us anyway.
Also, if you don't want to rely on your husband so much then don't. That way when you leave him he won't be financially responsible for alimony woman support paid to a fully grown adult.
As far as children are concerned custody should be shared. Stop using children as cash crops and stealing fathers away from children.
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