Friday, February 26, 2010

Equality - The Pay Gap - part 1 of 3


Yes, this picture is real. Are women willing to go the lengths of death to acquire territory and resources? Do women even have to? If they are, will they court us and provide them to us even outside of marriage after divorce? Men are and men do. Providing for women is the law both in social code and by the justice system. Women will not allow us different.

Will women allow men choices? Will men gain equal rights to earn a fair wage in this new found world where we compete directly with women for resources in business and from government; resources we need in order to provide to them in earnest and by force of family and divorce law and even in courtship? Most importantly will women's "liberation" continue to simply mean more "choices" as to how to extract resources from men and government or are women able to support themselves and "her" child on her own? Will men achieve the ends of independence from women's dependency? Will men ever become "liberated" from women?









I love the video but I DO Not like the ending. "She is not oppressed, he is"

I do not think it should be described with the feminist vernacular "oppressed". What I implore women to understand is that men and women are mutually bonded and supposed to be in servitude to each other. Though I do think it was stated this way to make a point to women.

If we insist on using the feminist vocabulary it would be stated we are mutually "oppressed" by the other...

To use MRA vernacular it would be stated......"we are mutually bonded" or at least I believe we are supposed to be mutually bonded and mutually dependent on each other.


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Part 3


UNDER CONSTRUCTION

This video makes me think what an attribute T.V. shows like DANGEROUS JOBS AND DIRTY JOBS ARE for the restoration of the image of men in our culture. I like your point that men need each other for the life of the other...

Men in these professions have been known to call each other baby when they are injured and coddle their head. I've seen combat video from the Iraq war of men doing this....It is a bond that is dangerous to share with a woman during such jobs....

You have to accomplish the mission or die. Men desire the strength and determination of other men to do it not women. Men work well with each other.

Women lobby to socialize what is supposed to be a free market run off market economic principals..When women do this they disenfranchise men from acquiring resources. I am very concerned about the "women first" laws we've implemented such as Title IX and Affirmative Action as to the effect they have on equal opportunities for men.....I'm very concerned that we will undergo hiring and promotion freezes for men so that women may advance over them without merit or effort as has been done in some socialist and Communist countries

Male value has been defined in terms of our willingness to sacrifice. Male value must no longer be understood as the proportion to which men are disposable and expendable both to marriage, as a husband, to children as a father and to society at large.. We must be given our equal rights, enfranchisement and agency, especially as part of the family and the lives of our children. We must no longer accept the role of "isolated resource producing males" in Alimony and Child Support to women who we are in legislated competition with as what is now a separate socio-political and economic class. Competition for the vary same resources males are forced to produce and provide to females.


Claims about sex-based wage discrimination have been repeated so often that many Americans simply accept them as fact. But a recently published — and quickly suppressed — study reveals a different picture.

Titled "An Analysis of Reasons for the Disparity in Wages Between Men and Women," the report tallies the results of over 50 studies. No one questions the fact that on average, men are paid more than women. But turns out this is an apples-to-oranges comparison.

The paper concludes the 20-cent odd wage difference is not caused by discrimination. Rather it's women exercising their right to make lifestyle choices. What choices are we talking about?

1. A greater percentage of women chose to work part-time.

2. Women may opt to leave the work force for childbirth, child care, or elder care.

3. Women are often willing to accept a lower paying job in return for family-friendly policies that allow them to have fewer hours, flexible schedules, and a shorter commute.

In addition, women work fewer hours than men. According to an article posted on the Department of Labor website, "Among full-time workers, 24% of the men, compared to 10% of the women, usually worked more than 40 hours per week:" http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/1984/06/art4full.pdf

And then the fact that men tend to work in occupations that are far more likely to injure, maim, or kill.

None of these are earth-shattering statements. But once again, myth-mongering forced the government to commission a costly study to prove the obvious.

In its foreword, the Department of Labor concluded, "this study leads to the unambiguous conclusion that the differences in compensation of men and women are the result of a multitude of factors." The DOL added this parting comment: "the raw wage gap continues to be used in misleading ways to advance public policy agendas:" http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf

(A thanks to Mike Eastman)

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

I have seen some of the earlier videos but did not view these. Some how from your comments I don't think I would find them uplifting. Men can always be seen in a positive way when they are doing something that benefits women and may be by extension society in general. So the police man is seen as heroic when confronting crime. But I don't see it that way at all. What I see is one man confronting another man. Men have always been able to gain approval by battering other men. It's not for me.

Bwec said...

You say:"Men can always be seen in a positive way when they are doing something that benefits women and may be by extension society in general."

-Agreed, society and women have a use for men and the key is to understand it so that a man may understand himself and navigate the male experience with health.

I agree with your observation in that men are defined by our sacrifices in society to the point of expandability and disposability.

Male suffering is gauged and only relevant to the ends of proportion in which it affects female suffering..Males are praised for suffering and our pain especially as it relates to sacrificing for a female.





You say: "What I see is one man confronting another man. Men have always been able to gain approval by battering other men. It's not for me."


First of all these videos are not about physical violence..but the Pay Gap.

The truth is that men gain approval from women for "battering" other men if you insist on expression male-male competition so crudely.

Provision to women directly from the State will serve to disenfranchise men from the family all together...

You think that male male competition has violent anomalies now...just wait....

Anonymous said...

Here's what we do: Create all-women fire brigades and send two women out as police partners. (Also, all-women combat brigades.) Then, makes sure we send them to do the same jobs as the men. Feminists will no doubt be VERY HAPPY that society has recognized they are the same as men. All brigades start out at the same pay grade. Then, we simply watch the performance measures.
Feminists / Equal Opportunity folks say that they can do the same job as a man and want equal pay for it. Well, lets isolate the variables and start collecting stats on all-men brigades vs all-women brigades. Make it double-blind, so that nobody knows which stats are from what group, and then adjust pay to performance. Well, Feminists... how about it?!

And while we are at it, why dont we simply stop asking gender on college admission applications... judge simply by merit. This is the true feminist utopia of a gender-blind society right? Well let's call their bluff.

Or why dont we change affirmative action laws to say that WHATEVER gender is under-represented gets preferred admissions. Fairness is fairness right? Since males are only 40% of college admissions, this will help us overcome the massive societal discrimition against an underrepresented group.

Also, time to require females to register for selective service or face jail time! Equal rights, equal responsibilities.

When its time to exit a sinking ship, lets go in order of age. Youngest off first, regardless of gender. Or is a 19 year old man's life less valuable than a 67 year old woman's?

Ladies nights at the bars are gender discrimiation. Image "Whites Drink Free" nights. It doesnt go over so well when we substitute race for gender here. Let's sue in droves and make them pay the same as we do for drinks (which we know we'd still buy for them anyway). Feminists will come out in droves to support these types of discrimiation for sure, right?! Right? hmmm.

Anonymous said...

One of the problems I have these days is in understanding what work is. I know what a job is but what people do in them is hard for me to categorize as work. People can be making a lot of effort but so much that I see going on is just endlessly satisfying the requirements of 'the system'. In the end nothing seems to have been produced which is my understanding of what work is.

Bwec said...

Hello Anon, very good observation, you must be American.. In my country we don't produce goods and operate at a trade deficit. We borrow and spend to survive here.. 70% of our economy is consumer consumption... We are now concentrating on building a SERVICE economy...

Here are our largest growing jobs projected by the BLS to the year 2016.

President Obama said regarding the future economy of our country, " “Women are just as likely to be the primary bread earner, if not more likely, than men are today,” ...

Here is America's New Economy at work....30% of all workers in the U.S. are temporary\contract workers many with no healthcare..

Expect for wages to be driven down even further in the New Economy.

NURSES
RETAIL SALES PERSON
CUSTOMER SERVICE
FAST FOOD
OFFICE CLERKS
PERSONAL HOME CARE AID
HOME HEALTH AID
POST SECONDARY TEACHER
JANITOR
NURSE AID, ORDERLIES AND ATTENDANT
BOOKKEEPER, ACCOUNTING
WAITRESS OR WAITER
CHILD CARE FAMILY OR MOTHER SURROGATE WORKER
SECRETARY
SOFTWARE ENGINEER

Anonymous said...

Sadly I am not American. I would like to be. One of my fantasies is to live in Auburn Alabama so I could be near the Mises institute. Even though I am financially self-sufficient and could afford to live in the USA its extremely difficult to live in the USA. So actually I am British but do you have any suggestions or advice how I could live in the USA?

Bwec said...

I don't but it shouldn't be that hard to get a work visa..America brings in anyone we think will work cheaper than we do. An H1B Visa I believe is what you're looking for. Immigration is not much further from there I would imagine.

Matriarchal laws are just a tad less here but you must remember that men have no rights in marriage here as well.

We also deal with "women first" laws in our colleges and business hirings along with diversion of the majority of the resources of men and government to women...most particularly outside of marriage.

Here, as in Great Britain women control social policy and politics.

Our system is designed to support women and their children both in and out of marriage...Men are simply a means to an end.

I would not start a family here but I wouldn't in Great Britain either...

As far as work is concerned we mainly service people, in our Service and consumption economy. Lady liberty has become quite the whore. Beware that the labor market has been quite marginalized. 30% of workers are temp/contract and this will get worse.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Bwec for your advice. Why I am attracted to the USA is because of what I think is the movement towards Liberty that is taking place there. I think from this distance it is easy to get a false impression. I avidly absorb all the comments of Ron Paul and follow Judge Napolitano closely. I would certainly like to be part of such a movement that has Liberty as its total purpose. From an MRA perspective I would hope that we could benefit generally if Liberty and the individual were paramount. As it is both here and in the USA men are just trampled on irrelevances. Any way I will look into the things you suggest.

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